Tyson Schoene Head Routesetter
# of years setting? Since 2000
# of comps set for? Over 90 some, maybe more…
Setting exploits? The only exploit I will say is that I have maintained psyche for routesetting. I do this every day and I love it.
Favorite tape color? neon green
Drill of choice? Dewalt 12V
Ideal setting tool quiver (tools of choice)? I’m on all Petzl gear like most of my guys. I wear the calidris big wall. I got a couple quick fixs. Petzl bolt bag just went into effect, couple ratchets, tap, die, directionals, draws, various pouches, pulleys, micro traxion, set of five ten daescents and a bog ol tool box. I carry everything I could ever need with me. If I need to pick up and set at another gym I need it all to be in one box. All of my setters have a big box of tools. I feel it is really important to get your own set up, for efficiency and professionalism – carpenters, mechanics, iron workers, any specialist has their own tools and gets dialed in on their own set up.
Setting pet peeves? Double taping holds, mixed colors of tape, sloppy/lazy work, the use of the word “reachy”, and not taking setting as serious as it should be taken. It’s the number one product in the gym and it should be treated as such. My list of pet peeves is endless, but im working on it.
Sandbagging or grade coddling? I understand all too well that ego plays a huge role in routesetting and the people who are climbing the routes. We as routesetters need to let go of our ego more so than the climbers. If you get shut down on a route you feel you should be able to walk up, what are you focusing on? The grade right? You don’t even worry about the quality of the line. So I feel that it is our job to make sure people are getting good quality with fair grades. No one wants to be sandbagged, it doesn’t feel good and climbing is very much involved with the feeling you get from it. If we sandbag you, I apologize, we don’t try to. ive even took all the routesetters names off the routes. i dont want anyone going into a route with preconceived notions. i want our clients to look at the route for what it is and what the movement is like. not who set it and what the grade is.
What are your favorite grips? I really like old classics, pusher, stone age comp series. but much of the newer stuff that is coming out is fantastic. I really can set with anything and be psyched.
Who are your setting heroes? Jason Mikos had a huge influence on my setting in the beginning. so did Andy Seaver. I love what Mike Helt has done for the routesetting world in the US he was one of the first people to take this to a level of professionalism that was necessary for progress. If you know, you know. But now im really psyched on my guys. Probably because I get to see their work every day. I feel that from a retail stand point it is really good, and obviously from a comp standpoint it is too – considering their credentials. My biggest thing is being able to count on guys and not have to worry about their work. I don’t want to have to tweak their stuff . I want to go over routes of course and talk about what can be made better, just as others used to do with me, but really I need competent proficient pros. I would much rather have a crew of 3 really dependable professionals than a group of 10 lazy setters who climb hard.
What inspires your lines? Movement and flow. I need my lines to feel like a walk, otherwise I am not happy with them. I know when I put holds on the wall there is a certain sequence that will be the best, and if you do this sequence, it will feel like a walk. if it doesn’t, then you are doing it wrong. there is always a way to force movement, but I really like to hit the median between forced and options. I work with kids every day and I get instant feedback on the routes I set from youth that climb hard and move well. There is no better way to learn about your setting.
What makes you take your routesetting seriously? I take everything I do seriously. routesetting is something I have spent a lot of time doing and trying to perfect. I am the head setter for one of the biggest gym companies in the country. if I didn’t take it seriously, how do you think that would reflect on us as a business? If I just looked at it as a job to pass the time, I would have moved on years ago.
Favorite climbing style? I prefer sport routes and boulders. You wont find me trad climbing much anymore or at all. I do love long easy climbing, but I just haven’t gotten out to do it much recently.
# of years setting? About 4
# of comps set for? 20 or so! Including both Youth ABS and SCS Regionals and an SCS Divisionals hosted by your very own VW!
Setting exploits? Working with the best route setting team in the country every day! Also I had the opportunity to be head routesetter for a small competition over in Spokane in 2012 and everything ran super smooth and almost perfect so I was pretty proud of that. Also getting paid to do one of my favorite things in the entire world!
Favorite tape color? White looks good on everything. Except now we color coordinate holds and that means using old mank.
Drill of choice? Dewalt 12V
Ideal setting tool quiver (tools of choice)? A lift! That doesn’t fit in the tool quiver… I’ve loved the mini-Walt that I’ve been using the last couple years. Ratchet, tap, and wire brushes are always a necessity! Love the big wall harness that Boss Ross gave me and the Metolius daisies/quickfixes. Suppose I should get a Mini-Trax soon for the heavier buckets…
Setting pet peeves? Double taping holds, having just ONE martini bolt in a bucket full of sockets, minimal amount of holds to get you up the wall, and aesthetics. The route or boulder problem definitely has to look good.
Sandbagging or grade coddling? Neither. I definitely have sandbagged a lot of routes before, but I try my best not to. Don’t focus on the grade, focus on the climb.
What are your favorite grips? Teknik – Such simple shapes but so much fun to climb on and to set with. Texture is fantastic, too. I think I’m spoiled by being in a newer generation of routesetters and polyurethane holds. E-grips always seems to put out new and original shapes after being in the game for so long. You’ll never go wrong with the Pusher Boss or any of the rad ETCH volume holds. Also bubblewraps, bubblewraps, and more bubblewraps.
Who are your setting heroes? The guys I set with every day! Tyson Schoene is definitely my biggest hero in all aspects of climbing: route setting, coaching, being a top athlete, etc. Bret Johnston and Ross Halverson are such a huge reminder every day to always put up something new, something different that you haven’t done before. Merg, Josh, and Devo are always a blast to work with as well! I will never be able to emphasize enough about how awesome the crew is at Vertical World. Irreplaceable. Mike Helt and Molly Beard are two of the most experience routesetters in the country and I’ve grown up through youth competitions climbing their routes at every local event. I loved being able to finish my attempt on a route and run over to talk to them about it. Mike and Luke Bertleson taught my Level 1 USAC Clinic and the two are absolutely amazing. Anyone who has set a route that I’ve climbed on in a competition has my thanks – you all are the reason I’m doing this today.
What inspires your lines? I grew up in the gym and on competitions so showy movement is definitely something I am always psyched on. But you can’t set competition routes in the gym every day. Fun movement and anything that puts you out of your comfort zone to make you think is a good route. Someone once told me that a route that’s weird and a route that’s hard are two very different things and for some reason I like that a lot. I’d rather climb a route that was something I wasn’t necessarily good at and come away from it being a better climber than climbing something that was easy for me mentally but purely physically challenging. I don’t know if that influences my routesetting at all but I like to think it does.
What makes you take your routesetting seriously? I take everything I do seriously! Rock climbing is my life. I grew up in the sport and had a community that gave me so much opportunity to do amazing things and now I feel like I’m giving back. Routesetting, coaching, and everything I do in the gym is, in my mind, giving back to the community and using those experiences I’ve had to help others. My position as a routesetter and coach is huge because I can use both those skills to better the next generation.
Favorite climbing style? I prefer bouldering and sport climbing. My favorite style is pulling you car up to the climb, getting out of the car without hiking, setting your pad or rope down, gearing up and GO! Oh wait…. What do you mean we can’t drive our car into the gym? I don’t want to go anymore! I particularly like pinches and pockets and am not very fond of crimps, but I know that’s the opposite of what most people are strong at, so I try not to use pockets a lot specifically. I like the occasional slightly overhanging power climbs, but I probably would pick delicate-slab movements and hip turns anyday!